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CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://youtu.be/dpq7j8lkc98.
never a jw

In defense of the of the critics,
I feel bad that I made a comment suggesting that Mrs. Dykstra may have caved in to the Watchtower and decided to scrap any future publication of Ray Franz books. But in retrospect, I think many of us speculated because she was completely silent for a very long time; a simple two paragraph explanation could have put the speculation to rest, but she chose not to explain anything. So Slim and many others who speculated and question her motives should be given some slack.
I certainly am quite happy that "Crisis" is available again, but I can't help to wonder why she was completely silent for so long and decides to surprise everyone.
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Are there any instances of "GOD" order and/or condoning the rape of women in the bible?
by Black Man in
1. jw
2. friends
this came up recently with my dyed-in-the-wool jw pioneer mother, who swears up and down that there are no scriptural instances of this happening.

i seem to remember a couple passages, but can't remember where they were..
never a jw

"After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife."
Isn't God nice?, he allowed a month mourning period before raping orphan women whose parents were killed by the rapist. Praise Jehovah God!
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I was quite tolerant of this guy until now
by never a jw in
1. social
2. current
president trump is definitely a demagogue, a populist, and not a great extemporaneous speaker, just to mention few of his more conspicuous flaws.

however, i was going along because "it's the economy stupid".

now that has changed.
never a jw

"Why is it OK for the EU to impose tariffs, but not OK for the US?"
Because we in the U.S. believe in free trade far more than the E.U. If they want to go off a cliff, then let them go. Free trade allows the consumer to buy the best mousetrap at the best price possible. Free trade benefits consumers more than anyone else. What's wrong with that??
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I was quite tolerant of this guy until now
by never a jw in
1. social
2. current
president trump is definitely a demagogue, a populist, and not a great extemporaneous speaker, just to mention few of his more conspicuous flaws.

however, i was going along because "it's the economy stupid".

now that has changed.
never a jw

"People actually believe this?"
Yes, American society in general was too concerned about taking away white male privilege that created a mess for themselves. It's called Trump. By the way I happen to be very brown, literally. But I just don't blind myself to reality.
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Is My Wife Awakening?
by My Name is of No Consequence in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
every now and then, my wife will talk about how things are not making sense within the org.

i usually just dismiss it as her playing mind games with me.

for example, she would ask why there are so many branches being closed or why so many congregations are being merged.
never a jw

You are living with an apostate in the making. Run...together
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March 2018 Broadcast - When quotes become rumors
by Listener in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this months broadcast is presented by losche and he discusses the need for trust in the fds.

the following is transcribed from the 12.30 mark.. satan also has the scheme to spread rumors about our brothers including the faithful slave.

the method of spreading rumors is not new.
never a jw

"A quote can be taken out of context. Critical reports often only give part of a matter and leave out other aspects. Often such rumors play on the emotions."
Take it from the experts on the subject.
EDIT: I should have read all comments first. Pretty much everyone noticed the same thing.
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I was quite tolerant of this guy until now
by never a jw in
1. social
2. current
president trump is definitely a demagogue, a populist, and not a great extemporaneous speaker, just to mention few of his more conspicuous flaws.

however, i was going along because "it's the economy stupid".

now that has changed.
never a jw

What wasanelder said.
Also I want to add that I understand that the American white male has been neglected, mistreated, rejected, maligned unfairly in the last few decades, but is Trump your idea of how to fix that injustice? You could have done better, far better.
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PORTUGAL: Petition to terminate the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness gets national news coverage
by EdenOne in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the petition is now going on 537 signatures.. today the newspaper "diário de notícias", the leading non-tabloid newspaper in the country, gave the story front page coverage and a full page to the article inside.. here are the links to the pictures of the pages:.

front page:.

page 6 and article: .
never a jw

Good job Eden!!
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
never a jw

Bobby "nets probably 3 billion a year"
How do you arrive at that number, which I find it possible only as net income, and before you account for the usually large percentage of expenses.
Ultimately you are wrong regarding your assessment of the org. not being in trouble. People are leaving slowly, some are slowing down because their faith is also diminishing, and many more only stay because they are heavily dependent on the social club. I see it in my JW relatives. They no longer are the zealous JW's once were. Trust me on that, that zealous generation is almost gone, in some cases literally.
20 years a go the Watchtower was creating new congregations and buying properties and building, today they are consolidating congregations and selling property. If that's not a sign of tough times, I don't know what is.
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Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?
by Slidin Fast in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

the downside?
never a jw

Bobby: " it’s an undeniable fact that most Jws still care, you may as well find another hobby. "
You are right. However, you are missing the part about aging and dying, and not finding enough replacements. The new generation of JW's don't fall for bullshit as easily as the older generations of JW's, which are slowly but surely moving to the next stage in the cycle of life, nourishing the soil.